Thursday, October 9, 2014

How to Reverse Gum Disease Fast

Little did I realize when I started blogging about my success reversing my gum disease that secret weapon number one would turn out to be my water bottle.
In the years since I first shared my success recipe, I have received tons of feedback and I have had the chance to think and experiment a lot with an easy-to-overlook part of my success: all-day ninja water swishing.  In the words of a recent comment:
Hi Tom. Good to hear from you. By the way the swishing with water after eating has worked wonders. It sounds like common sense but many people just eat and the food residue just sits in their mouth bathing around the gums.
Early in my blogging I realized that the key to oral health was to find a way to keep the teeth and gums cleaner for a much larger percentage of the week.  In my blog posts, I ditched string flossing, and I focused on daytime swishing plus a single nightly cleaning with sonic brush and waterpik irrigator followed by an intentional night-time fast.  But independent of the other actions, I am understanding increasingly the importance of all-day water swishing, or in other words, swishing repeatedly after dirtying the mouth until the swishing water is clean and the mouth is clean.
If you keep a water bottle at your side all day, and clean your mouth by swishing repeatedly and vigorously every time you eat something, you will quickly see the following benefits:
  • Your gums will soon be a more healthy light pink color
  • Your breath will soon smell cleaner
  • Your general health (appetite, immunity, mood) will improve due to increased water intake
All the signs that quickly appear after you begin carrying around your secret weapon water bottle and swishing throughout the day point to success defeating your gum disease and tooth decay.
Be a Super Swisher.  Carry a water bottle, your top secret weapon, and don't be afraid to use it (in addition to your nightly cleaning and fast and other actions).  And please give your kid a hug.

53 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hi Tom,

I'm in my early twenties and suffer from gum recession on majority of my teeth - possibly due to trauma (braces and a underbite surgery) + now possibly decay.

The strangest thing is that it's been years since I had my surgery yet my gums have weakened and continued to recede.

I'll definitely consider water swishing, using an oral irrigator and other tips you have mentioned.

Thomas Gail Haws said...

Yes. Hopefully you will see pinker gums and have cleaner breath before you know it.

Anonymous said...

hi Tom
you dont have to post this

just an afterthought

if you actually write mark manhart from calcium therapy, or show him your website, I think he would be very interested to correspond with you

he does mention things that is not inline with you like Stop power flossing, stop measuring pockets (it spreads from one pocket to another),i assume he is against oral piks as well

I think you would gain well to write him as you have conquered and have way more knowledge than me in this field

I know nothing as I'm still battling this in its infancy

Sharon L

Thomas Gail Haws said...

Good idea. I think I will do that. Thank again for the great find.

Tom

Thomas Gail Haws said...

Sharon, what I did happened to work for me and happened to be a little more natural and seem a little more right than what all the dentists were telling me. And some of my discoveries have given a lot of hope and ideas to a lot of people, but I am just a lay person. I have deep respect for Dr. Manhart, and I am already contemplating editing my posts with regard to germicides. I look forward to learning more from him. My own flavor and my own success story are valuable contributions, but it's good to work together to learn from each other and improve together. Isn't the internet great?!?

Anonymous said...

indeed you have given a lot of hope to many, i am one of them

it takes great courage to go against the "supposed" experts in this field example the dentists you have met

but one always must realise, sometimes they too have to pay the bills

thank you for hope.

sharon

Sonia said...

Hi Tom,

I've been reading your information with great interest and have been using the sonic toothbrush and waterpik for 6 weeks now.

I'm due to have an oral exam in one week, I have a couple of questions:

1) regarding hydrogen peroxide, I read conflicting stories on the internet. Some say it is not recommended to swish with H202 every day as it will erode the enamel.

Others report that it is perfectly safe. What percentage H202 do you use and do you dilute it with water before you swish?

How long do you leave the H202 in your mouth before rinsing?

Regarding water swishing, I know you've mentioned to swish with water after eating something. On average how long do you swish for each time? Is it a few minutes more more like 10 minutes at a time?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


thanks:)

Thomas Gail Haws said...

Thanks for visiting, Sonia.

1. H2O2. I don't typically use germicide any more. When I did, I would generally try to keep it in my mouth for at least a minute or more, sometimes while I walked around the house. In general, I used germicide depending on how my morning breath smelled.

2. Swishing. I swish repeatedly until nothing more comes out of my teeth, and until I feel clean. Probably just a few minutes. Not like Oil Pulling (20 minutes).

Sonia said...

great! Thanks for your prompt reply

Anonymous said...

Hi Tom,

Do you swallow after you swish? Sorry the question, but I spontaneously I would swish in the toilet and spit out ... when you mention you walk around with a bottle and swish it sounds as you swallow the stuff. Which is ok for me, I just want to know how you do it. And how many times a day do you swish?

Thanks,

Irene

Thomas Gail Haws said...

Hi, Irene. I don't swallow germicide, but I do swallow my after-food-water-swishing most of the time. After all, we all can usually use more water in our bellies!

Kent said...

Tom,

Are you really seeing/experiencing bone regrowth?

I don't want to sound skeptical, but I have been told and have read that this is not possible. Perhaps, you are a rare case where it did happen. Do your x-rays show more bone?

Btw, your gums look really good.

Lastly, I have heard Xylitol is good for your teeth.

Thomas Gail Haws said...

Kent, I am no expert. I haven't asked my dentist about the lumps on my gums. Have you seen my Youtube video showing the lumps? I am no longer on a periodontal treatment program, if that means anything to you. I will try to remember to ask my dentist.

Anonymous said...

Hi Tom. Just came across your blog. Perfect timing. Can I ask a question. Do you think if tartar present it is a good idea to get teeth scraped. Just been told about gum disease and that is next step on the dentist road. Swilling and swishing like crazy. Thanks.

Thomas Gail Haws said...

I'm not sure what is the right thing to do, but I always get my semi-annual (every 6 month) hygienist cleanings. I have never had invasive root planings. I do know that hydrogen peroxide is a debriding (cleaning) agent.

Dr. Mark Manhart says " NO ONE NEEDS GUM SURGERIES, even when it is called deep cleaning, planing and scaling. In the 1970s dental/medicine dumped root planing due to the damage it does to the roots." I don't think he means routine hygienist cleanings.

Thomas Gail Haws said...

p.s. I mean I don't think he is against routine cleanings.

Anonymous said...

Dear Thomas,

Unless you are afflicted by this emotionally degrading condition, it's difficult to understand how wonderful it is to find a blog like yours and also find a bit of hope that we might be as diligent as yourself and actually turn things around. I let my fear of the dentist almost ruin my marriage....embarrassed by teeth, bad breath, stopping kissing my husband- having the obvious knock-on effects and generally talking to people, avoiding close social situations. I finally got the courage to visit the dentist last week and heard what I expected, circa 10 x 3 mm pockets. It's not as bad as some people but at 30 years old, it does give you a shake up. I just wanted to say how much I value your dedication not only to what you had to deal with personally but also to people, like me, who come to this blog for a bit of support. I am bowled over by the level of personal feedback you give people. So, sending a heartfelt thanks, Waterpik on order and swishing water my new best friend.

Swishingwifey, Derbyshire, UK.

Thomas Gail Haws said...

I bet just the swishing will make you kissable before you know it. Add the WaterPik with nightly diligence and you'll have it licked. I think you have zeroed in on the two things that are most important for you at this time. Take heart, using the WaterPik is fun and refreshing.

theautismcuredotorg said...

I recommend this to oatients always but as our diets are very processed we do build calcium deposits which becime barnicles of bacteria which if are not removed professionally will cause the teeth and gums and even bine to reject the teeth and in not fixing the typos as I had to retype my post after signing in.

Thomas Gail Haws said...

Yes. Thanks.

Harry said...

Hi Thomas, great blog, specifically on the topic of teeth. I discovered some of what you say by myself, but my conversion is very recent, just a few months back. I now believe that food should be in your mouth only when it is being eaten. Before and after, the mouth has to be clean. So I do swishing I guess all the time, I already use the water pick and I am planning to add on more things over the next few weeks.

I am due to for a root canal in a few weeks - it has been delayed because the doctor wants me to go on valium and someone needs to drive me and that could only happen after the kids schools close. Anyways, the root canal was not urgent, and this gave me time to read and experiment and I like the changes. However, while I believe that good habits can improve gums and maybe even cavities, I am not so sure about saving this 1 tooth that is so far gone that they need a surgery. It will be good to have your perspective on this...

Thomas Gail Haws said...

Well, my unprofessional perception about these issues is that they typically move very slowly and that if you are in a healing phase, it might not hurt to wait and see. I'm not sure if you are feeling up to trying fasting. If you are, there is always the delay of waiting for that to see how it works. Again, if you are in a healing phase, waiting might be a good thing.

Tom

Harry said...

Thanks Tom, well I do the 12 hour fast anyways. Have dinner by or around 7 and have breakfast by or around 7. I do not snack. Only thing I have not been doing is to consistently clean my mouth / teeth after the meal and sometimes it slips till maybe 10 in the night. I can definitely fix that and have 12 hours of cleanliness in the mouth. Not sure if I can do a longer fast, but I once in a while can and do skip a meal, so maybe I try to skip 1 dinner every week or 2 so that my mouth gets an 18 hours break. Beyond this, let us see.

Yes I am definitely in a healing phase but this tooth (almost but not the wisdom tooth) is so far gone that I feel I will need to get it fixed anyways. Lets see how the next 2-4 weeks look after I make more changes.

Thomas Gail Haws said...

I hope to hear how it goes.

Anonymous said...

Hi Thomas. 3-4 mm pockets. Suffered from ANUG a few years back and trying to fix all of this including bad breath that really feels like at times its ruining my life. Wondering if you can go into more detail about your use of bleach irrigation? I saw the link but I am curious about the effects of using it and how you managed to not ingest it and what benefits you saw (and how quickly)? By the way, thank you for sharing something as personal as all of this.

Thomas Gail Haws said...

Generally when I irrigate with the WaterPik I don't find that I accidentally swallow any of the water. So when I use Listerine or bleach I haven't had a problem. Irrigating with bleach tastes and feels different. Since you only use a small amount of bleach, it is quite gentle.

Thomas Gail Haws said...

Oops. I accidentally submitted the comment. Anyway, I think that the bleach really helps and makes a quick difference with your morning breath. And your morning breath is a very important indicator of how well you are healing your gum disease.

Anonymous said...

Thank you! So far I have been using hydrogen peroxide once a day and am noticing a huge difference. My only concern is it has caused my gums to tear in one area (near the tooth where I have excessive recession) and it makes another area where my gums bothered me white around the teeth. Could this be burning my gums or is this just debrading the dying gum tissue? Did you use hydrogen peroxide at the same time as the bleach irrigation? Just wondering what your treatment schedule looked like. I am really pleased with just brushing with hydrogen peroxide but I just want to make sure what I am experiencing is typical and I am not causing any additional issues. Thank you for the quick response. Two days of normal breath and no bad taste in my mouth. THANK YOU!

Thomas Gail Haws said...

I did sometimes feel like hydrogen peroxide was hard on my mouth. And eventually I stopped using germicides and settled on plain water irrigation. I think that the germicides may be an important temporary part of treatment. I liked the idea of alternating among the germicides, and I used Listerine, iodine, bleach, and hydrogen peroxide.

Now I just brush, rinse, and irrigate with water most of the time.

Anonymous said...

May I ask for a link for your video of gum/bone regrowth? Thanks for the inspiration, love your info!

Thomas Gail Haws said...

Try this post. And thanks for your encouraging words.

Beth said...

Hi Thomas, thank you for your blog which has given me hope. I only started looking after my teeth in the last 2 years since having a baby got me free dental care. Last month I was referred to a periodontist as regular cleanings were not proving enough. Periodontist did X-rays and measured pockets and told me I have 25%-33% bone loss and up to 9mm pockets. My gums have receded a lot. More so since I've been getting more regular cleanings due to the swelling reducing I think. I'm booked in for root planing and scaling next week but have been reading your posts and comments as well as Dr Mark Manhart's recommendations and am now having second thoughts about the procedure. I've ordered the calcium therapy home kit, I have a sonicare, I'm swishing, stopping eating earlier in the evening to give my mouth a clean break, I'm about to order a water irrigator (what make and model do you recommend please?) and am going to read up on fasting next and begin small with a 24 hour fast. I'm changing my diet (no more sugar, processed food or refined carbohydrates). I have been using hydrogen peroxide but got spooked that maybe it was too harsh and was doing more harm than good (Dr Manhart is anti harsh chemical mouthwashes), so now I think I'm going to try just Grapefruit seed extract.
Do you think I should go ahead with the scaling and root planing regardless of my intentions to try improve my predicament naturally? Dr Manhart says avoid invasive procedures, that scaling and root planing can cause more damage, but everyone else (Dentists) say it is vital to remove the bacteria within the pockets if I want to keep my teeth, bone, jaw (!). I'm thinking of putting it off for 3 months maybe to see if I notice any difference with self treatment, maybe go and get pockets measured again then, see if any improvement, although Dr Manhart says don't get your pockets measured either because it spreads bacteria!! Aggh! As you can tell I'm a bit stressed and upset about my situation which probably isn't helping! Lol
Thanks look forward to hearing from you.
Beth

Thomas Gail Haws said...

Beth, Arrrrgghhh is right. To wait or not to wait. Here's a possible ray of hope for you: a few months or a year of delay of root planing is not going to hurt you, especially if you are truly turning over a new leaf. If this has saken you up as much as it sounds, I believe you will have greatest peace canceling all root planing appointments ("for the time being") and observing your gums and breath for a few weeks or months.

I can appreciate that it is vital to remove the bacteria. I can think of three possible ways to remove the bacteria that you might try before having root planing.
1. Nightly irrigation.
2. Manhart's treatment. (I hope you will return and report your experience if you do this.)
3. Long fasting.

I don't know your situation, so I don't know if you can do a long fast, though it is sure to help. Short fasts and nightly fasts will also help.

I am not picky about an irrigator. I simply bought a WaterPik because that is what I knew. Mine has served me faithfully for 5 years now. I suggest you buy whatever you can get as soon as you can. Meanwhile, the "Ninja swishing" (see my post about oil pulling) will help without a doubt.

The great news is that if you postpone your root planing and continue faithfully with swishing, fasting, irrigating, and diet improvements, you will see improvement very quickly. You may want to take photos just to amaze your family!

Diana said...

Hi Tom,

I came across your blog about 18 months ago when I began to develop oral/dental problems after being stable for many years. When I got the bad news I went crazy, researching everything, trying everything. Long story short, here is my routine:

a.m.: Swish mouth with Closys, which contains sterile chlorine dioxide. Hope it's OK to provide a commercial name. I am not affiliated w/the company! It's expensive stuff but I collect coupons and anyway, no sacrifice is too great for your teeth. I dip my toothbrush in the solution first, by the way, and tap it before I swish. Then I brush my teeth with a regular toothpaste, I rinse my mouth, and then waterpik one tank.

p.m. Brush with Elgydium an expensive French toothpaste that contains chlorhexidine. This might not be necessary but whatever....then waterpik as above. Then one minute with prescription fluoride toothpaste, which I do not rinse.

Occasionally during the day I swish with dilute solution of baking soda, which alkalizes the mouth and counteracts carb-induced acidity.

So far, so good.

Thanks for your excellent advice.

Thomas Gail Haws said...

Success rocks. Thanks for sharing.

Anonymous said...

Hi Tom
Any inputs you got from Beth regarding Dr. Manhart's calcium therapy? I had comments on your first post on your gum diseases reversal. I bought a waterpik and been using it for past 3 days. Curious to know more about calcium therapy.

Regards Ajay

Thomas Gail Haws said...

Hi, again, Ajay. I have not heard any reports from Beth about Dr. Manhart's therapy. I talked a bit with Dr. Manhart. From what I understand it isn't super expensive to try it at home. Let me know if you get any good or bad results. How do you like your WaterPik?

Anonymous said...

Hi Thomas
The waterpik experience is good. I am using it for 3 days now. I contacted Dr Manhart via an email. He responded in details and asked me to send X ray image and selfie image of teeth with lips wide open. I have mailed all the images. Waiting for his reply now.

Have you reviewed vitamin C therapy for periodontal disease? Which type of vitamin C to use Sodium ascorbate or calcium ascorbate?

I am really desperately wanting to avoid surgery on right side

Thanks and Regards
Ajay

Thomas Gail Haws said...

I don't know about Vitamin C therapy, but I know your diet needs to be good, preferably with lots of natural color instead of processed color or bland whites and browns.

Cool about Manhart. I hope you will stay in touch and let me know how that goes. He seems like a good soul.

Unknown said...

Hi! I'm 21 years old and I'm completely embarssed with my mouth I have pretty bad periodontal disease. I've had a huge phobia with the dentist after getting tonsil removal surgery when I was 7 I absolutely fear things going in so I avoid brushing all together which is stupid! I'm ready to combat this and not let my teeth go to hell, I'm still young and I want to keep my teeth the thought of losing them scares me. What should I do firstly?

Thomas Gail Haws said...

Hi, T(?),
Motivation is probably the most important factor, and it sounds like you are motivated. Why don't you take some time to look at all my gum disease posts, especially my Top ten actions to reverse gum recession? Then let me know any thoughts or questions you have.

Tom

Anonymous said...

Hi,
Do you have any x-rays showing that you had certain amount of bone loss around your teeth? I think that you may not have had gum disease. Perhaps you just had gingivitis which is the early stage of gum disease that can be reversed.

Anonymous said...

Hello:
Just wondering: I'm having trouble with gum recession as a result of grinding teeth, and am getting a night guard soon. (Along with learning to slow down/ relax a bit!) The other trouble is cavities. Big ones continue to pop up, in spite of very limited sugar intake, no processed foods, low carbs, etc. I've just started using the sonicare and Waterpik, and they seem to be keeping things clean, but I'm hesitant to give up toothpaste or brush only once a day given the persistent teeth troubles. Just trying to find a balance between being gentle to gums and cleaning teeth super thoroughly. Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Thomas Gail Haws said...

I was on periodontal treatment, and I had pockets up to 7mm deep. I am sure there were x-rays, but I did not pay attention to them. I did bring home copies of my periodontal examination (pocket depth) charts. The dentists called it gum disease (periodontitis), not gingivitis. That's about the best I can tell you.

Thomas Gail Haws said...

According to Wikipedia "To have a true periodontal pocket, a probing measurement of 4 mm or more must be clinically evidenced." My teeth did not look like the more scary photos, but I had widespread pockets 4mm or deeper. See the numbers on many of my posts about gum disease.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for your quick reply on my comment on Jan 19th at 4pm. I really like your blog. I am going to try the 12-24 hour fasting and the water flosser.

Anonymous said...

Hi Tom,

It's heartening to read about your progress! Just wondering: have you ever had any issues with cavities? Does your routine keep those at bay as well? I have issues with both gums and cavities and am hoping a fast will help with the decay problem, too.

Thomas Gail Haws said...

For some reason I have had little problem with cavities since I left my teen years. I guess this happens with a lot of people. I don't know why. Anyway, I don't currently have any problems at all, and my dentist congratulates me when I visit him.

Thomas Gail Haws said...

Hey, sorry I missed your comment about your grinding teeth. I don't know a lot about stopping cavities. I've been fortunate to have little trouble with cavities since my youth.

Anonymous said...

My name is Nicole. I've had three mandible jaw surgeries cutting my bone and reattaching it with titanium. After all that over ten years and braces for also over ten years, my bottom front teeth are receding. I think its due to over brushing. I have a waterpik but rarely use it. Would you suggest using a low setting and angling the waterpik towards the gumline to correct this issue? I've had two gum grafts on the one particularly bad tooth but I've never had bad cleanings. Dentist tell me I'm doing great but the gum line continues to recede. I'm 28. I have horrible anxiety about my mouth, all attributed to these receding bottom gums.

Thomas Gail Haws said...

I'm sorry to hear about your terrible story with your jaw. I think that the beginning of your turnaround has to be lots of swishing and a companion water bottle. I agree with your thoughts about the waterpik, and you can try using it nightly. You should be able to tell within days whether you are getting better results based on how your gums look, feel, and smell.

Anonymous said...

Good evening. I am 22 and have just been diagnosed with periodontal disease. I currently have 4 loose teeth and I am very scared about them. I have been referred to a periodontist on the 6th July and will have further check up then. I have been crying and having sleepless nights ever since the discovery of my loose teeth. The dentist told me that I have lost about 40% of my bone due to the disease and my gums are receding. I have had deep cleaning done ( scaling ) and the dentist told me this should be hopefully be sufficent enough, however, i am sceptical. I have just started oil pulling for the past 2 days as I've heard it's good . I'm going to be doing this until the 6th and see ignore I get any results. I am very scared as I do not want to loose my teeth at this age. I've definitely had a wake up call and since I've had deep cleaning done at the dentist and have purchased a hydrogen peroxide mouthwash ( recommended by dentist). I've been using interdental brushes and my normal toothbrush at the same time. After reading up on you , I see you as a successs story. Any advice from you would be highly appreciated. Should I continue to oil pull and hope my gums will grow back from the deep cleaning done ? . I've been reading up on bone grafts and think this might be an option for me. Thank you

Thomas Gail Haws said...

Hi. I am really sorry to hear about your condition, but glad for your wake-up call. If your breath and the color of your gums don't get better fast, you will need to up your game. First you'll need to rinse even more than the daily oil pulling. Then if your breath and color still don't improve, you will need to get a WaterPik. I hope you are not damaging your gums with anything like smoking or super hot food/drink. Pampering care is the secret to healing. Let me know if you have trouble getting your breath and color to improve.